People who claim to be the incarnation of God

TOPICS: The Atman or oversoul - all are individualizations of God, but most cannot accept it - no one incarnates with full God consciousness - earth has too low of a vibration for  a being with God consciousness to incarnate - Hinduism uses the word “God” differently than in the West - a person with Christ consciousness would not claim to be God in embodiment - only mind of anti-christ can believe it is God - only ego wants to set itself above other people - only fallen beings will claim to be a divine incarnation - dream of guaranteed salvation makes people follow gurus who make bold claims - causes codependence instead of Christhood -

Question: There seem to be several gurus or spiritual teachers who claim to be the incarnation of God or some aspect of God. Of course, many Christians believe Jesus was God on earth. Is this really true? 

 

Answer from ascended master Jesus through Kim Michaels:

 

I am aware that several gurus in both East and West have claimed to be the incarnation of one or more deities. While the question of Divine incarnation is somewhat complex, let me try to give a brief explanation.

The Vedas are correct is saying that there is an over-soul or Atman out of which all self-conscious beings came. This Atman is an extension of the Creator’s Being, and thus one can technically say that all people are Divine incarnations. Yet I prefer to say that all people have the seed of God consciousness but that the seed needs to be nurtured until it grows to full maturity. Thus, I would not say that all people are Divine incarnations and let me explain why.

As explained in the teaching on your true identity, you were created as an extension of a spiritual Being. However, you were created with a limited self-awareness and you are meant to grow until you attain full God consciousness. In other words, no one EVER incarnated for the first time with the full God consciousness. Everyone has to grow gradually.

When you attain full God consciousness, you could theoretically be said to be a Divine incarnation who is fully awakened and aware of its identity, as some claim to be. The problem in this claim is that attaining full God consciousness cannot be done in the material universe and not even in the lower levels of the spiritual realm. To attain full God consciousness, you need to rise to the level of the Creator, and then you no longer incarnate on earth. In other words, when you reach the level of consciousness where you can rightfully make the claim to be a Divine incarnation, you will no longer be on earth.

As a new co-creator you first have to make your ascension, whereby you permanently earn your place in the spiritual realm. You can then choose to remain with the earth and help unascended beings grow, or you can choose to move on to higher levels and strive for full God consciousness. If you choose to stay with the earth – become a Boddhisatva – you postpone the attainment of full God consciousness. The simple reality is that the collective consciousness of humankind is still so low that no Being with full God consciousness could incarnate here.

The spiritual realm has several levels, and thus there is a hierarchy of spiritual beings that extends from the lowest spiritual realm – the one right above the material universe in vibration – to the Creator itself. Most people on earth are individualizations of spiritual beings in the lowest level of the spiritual realm. There are a few people who originally were extensions of Beings in a higher spiritual realm, but none are direct individualizations of the Creator itself.

In other words, no being who ever incarnated on earth has been a direct individualization of the Creator. It has come out of the hierarchy of beings that started with the Creator. The Creator first manifested itself as Alpha and Omega and out of them came the next level and so on. My point is that no Being who truly is a descendant of the Hierarchy of Light would claim to be the absolute or omnipresent God incarnate—regardless of the name you would use for God. If the Creator were to incarnate on earth, the intensity of its light would simply consume the entire planet and all lifestreams incarnating upon it. Thus, the light must be stepped down many times before a spiritual Being can incarnate without disturbing the purpose for the creation of the earth, namely the outplaying of free will.

What muddies the waters somewhat is that several religions – especially Hinduism – do not use the word “God” the same way it is commonly used in the West. They use the word God to refer to a variety of beings from the lowest spiritual realm to higher realms. Sometimes the word “God” is even used – incorrectly – about beings in one of the levels of the material realm. Thus, when a westerner hears that someone is an incarnation of a God, he or she often thinks this means the highest God as the term is commonly used in Christianity. That is why some westerners claim Hinduism is not a monotheistic religion. They fail to understand that Hinduism does recognize a supreme God, namely Brahman, but also recognizes a number of lower beings who are called Gods but are clearly seen as below the supreme God.

My point is that some people on earth are individualizations of Spiritual Beings that have attained the level of consciousness which in pure Hinduism is called the level of the Gods. This actually refers to several levels of the spiritual realm that are right above the material universe in vibration and not to the supreme God. However, the question is whether such beings are technically God incarnate or whether they would ever see themselves as such?

When a Being in the spiritual realm sends an individualization of itself to earth, it does not send its entire Being. The individualization does not have the full awareness of its spiritual “parent.” It starts with the same limited awareness as every other human being and thus sees itself as separated from its own higher Being. It therefore cannot be said to be a Divine incarnation.

A being can eventually attain the Christ consciousness in which it accepts its oneness with its higher Being, which gives it access to the powers of that Being. At that point one can be said to be a Divine incarnation in that your higher Being can work through you (I can of my own self do nothing. It is the Father within me who is doing the works.) Yet a person with Christ consciousness would not claim to be God in embodiment and it would not claim to be a Divine incarnation in the sense that the Creator has manifested itself directly as that person. Thus, you would never claim to be the supreme God on earth.

Even an ascended master does not claim to be God but sees itself as an extension of a hierarchy reaching up to the Creator. My point is that there is a subtle, but all-important, difference between seeing yourself as one with the spiritual hierarchy that reaches up to the Creator and actually thinking you ARE God. Only the Creator is God, whereas all created beings are co-creators with God (until they reach full God-consciousness). The function of the Christ consciousness is to help co-creators maintain their sense of oneness with God. Thus, when you attain oneness with God, you exclaim, “I and my Father are one.” You do not think that you are the Father.

Only a being who is lost in the consciousness of anti-christ – and who is thus separated from the Creator – can believe it IS God. Thus, only the ego – in its extreme form which is beyond the human ego – can make a person make such a claim. A being who has overcome the ego would never see itself as being God in embodiment but would recognize the hierarchy out of which it has come. That is why I am appalled by the Christian doctrine that I was God from the beginning and that I was never created by God. I AM indeed created as a co-creator with God and had to work my way up to the Christ consciousness before I could fulfill my role as the Living Christ on earth.

My point is that no one ever incarnated with the full God consciousness, and thus I would say that they were not Divine incarnations as understood by most westerners. Thus, I myself do not consider that my last embodiment as Jesus was a Divine incarnation.

I am aware that eastern students will view the concept of Divine incarnation slightly differently, but my basic point is that the concept really is quite useless. Even if a person is in his or her last embodiment and has almost attained the ascended consciousness, that person would not in any way seek to set itself above other people or claim to be infallible. Krishna, the Buddha and myself did not claim to be God incarnate. On the contrary, the higher you attain in true spiritual growth, the more you identify yourself with all life and seek to avoid having people put you on a pedestal. You want people to discover their own Divinity instead of worshiping your Divinity. That is why I used the concept “the Son of Man” about myself and never directly called myself the Son of God.

I had attained the Christ consciousness, and when you do this, you realize that you are a son or daughter of God. Thus, you really can call yourself such, but I knew that doing so would only increase the risk that I was turned into an idol. My point being that if people really have a high state of consciousness, they would not call themselves Divine incarnations. Yet in this age, it is appropriate that many people will call themselves sons and daughters of God, and when many people do so, it will remove the risk of idolatry.

I am aware that some would argue that my statements here – and my statements made 2,000 years ago – show I am still in duality. Some say the concept of oneness with God or being God’s Son still implies a duality, and they have gone beyond duality, which means you are God. There are several errors in this reasoning:

  • Seeing yourself as a co-creator with God is not the same kind of duality as the duality of the mind of anti-christ that traps most people on earth—as I explain in the ego discourses. Seeing yourself as one with God is not the same as seeing yourself separated from God by an impenetrable barrier. Knowing that you are an individualization of God but not the fullness of God is simply the realism of the Christ consciousness as opposed to the delusion of the mind of anti-christ. 
  • No one can go fully beyond duality – meaning distance from God – in the present condition of the material universe. Only in the higher vibrations of the spiritual realm can one rise into the full God consciousness and then even only in the highest spiritual realm.
  • When you attain the full God consciousness, you do not lose your individuality and disappear into God. You retain your individuality and thus you become a Creator in your own right. The Creator did not create you and have you go through eons of conscious experiences in order to have you disappear again. The Creator created you so that you too can become a Creator and continue the River of Life.

Let us now consider what makes someone make the claim to be God incarnate? If you will study my discourses on the human ego, you will see that it has a desire to set itself up as an authority that cannot be questioned or gainsaid. One way to do this is to become the leader of a religious organization and claim to be the highest representative of God on earth, as for example the Pope. In the East, the way to gain this authority is to set oneself up as a spiritual guru and claim to be a Divine incarnation. Two different approaches to the same goal.

Yet not even the human ego will claim to be God. Thus, such a claim can be made only by a being who created its ego when it fell from one of the spiritual realms. Incidentally, such a being had attained some degree of mastery before it fell, and thus it can easily display some superhuman abilities, including mind over matter. Because the ego was created above the material universe, it feels superior to anyone in this world, and that is what can make the ego make the claim to be the supreme God on earth.

What makes people susceptible to following such a person is the ego’s desire to find a guaranteed path to salvation. Thus, if you are a follower of a guru who is the divine incarnation, your salvation must be guaranteed. Your ego can then make you feel that the guru will do all the work for you, and thus you do not have to confront the ego and strive for real Christhood. That is what happens to almost everyone who follows what we might call a “Super-Guru.” I am quite aware that many Christians have turned me into this kind of super-guru.

Some gurus have learned to manipulate matter in useless ways. This is what I referred to when I said:

 

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24)

 

The followers of such gurus often become codependent upon the guru instead of striving for the Christ consciousness which some of them are capable of attaining. This leads them into a state of willful ignorance in which they ignore the claims about their guru’s behavior or decide that they would follow the guru even if the claims were proven to be true. This is what happens in an organization that is focused on one person and has no connection to the ascended masters. Thus, the followers become the servants of the guru rather than the leader becoming the servant of all. When the blind lead the blind, they shall both end up in the ditch.

I feel great compassion for the many people who have surrendered their lifestreams to such gurus. Yet I must also say – as I do in my discourse on false teachers – that the only cause is that a lifestream is unwilling to take full responsibility for itself and thus wants to follow a guru who can supposedly guarantee its salvation. Thus, the lifestream is vulnerable to those who make the claim to be the ultimate guru. I realize there is little hope that such people will even read this or will seriously consider the truth in my words.

Yet for those who are open, start by studying my discourses on the ego so you come to understand the elements in your psyche that make you vulnerable to becoming a blind follower. Then use the tools we give – including the rosaries – to strive for your true spiritual self-sufficiency and independence of any guru on earth, including this website. Life is too short to be a follower of someone else’s light—or appearance of light. Discover your own inner light and follow it until you are home free.

 

 

 

 

Copyright © 2006 by Kim Michaels

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